build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

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build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by mike » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:30 am

Hi, folks!

I think v1.2.0 is complete and almost ready to be released.
Here's the list of recent changes and fixes: The build itself:
http://magnumbytes.com/downloads/previe ... (2076).zip

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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by mike » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:24 am

Some final touches at this version: http://magnumbytes.com/downloads/previe ... (2081).zip

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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by swoop » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 pm

Hello there! This is my first day with NC (oh, those memories this abbreviation brings ;)) and my first post here.

I must say, NC is quite a job well done!

However I have problem with the complex "Theme" settings.

All I want to do is to increase all the fonts to size 15 and now I need to do that in million places. Couldn't that be made a bit simpler? Thanks!
(I reverted to 1.1.5 because some of the Preferences being far less self-explanatory. Some namings were improved, indeed, to be fair.)
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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by mike » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:55 am

swoop wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 pm
Hello there! This is my first day with NC (oh, those memories this abbreviation brings ) and my first post here.
I must say, NC is quite a job well done!
Hi swoop, thanks and welcome to the forum!
swoop wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 pm
However I have problem with the complex "Theme" settings.
All I want to do is to increase all the fonts to size 15 and now I need to do that in million places. Couldn't that be made a bit simpler? Thanks!
Well, it's a complex question, actually.

Basically, if you want to just change the size of filenames, it has to be done in two places - in "File Panels->Brief Mode->Text font" and in "File Panels->List Mode->Text font". This might take, say, 10 to 20 seconds.

More generally - why don't have just one single font option?
First of all, even in straightforward default Modern theme there're 3 different fonts: System-13, System-11, Menlo-13.
Secondly, before v1.2.0 I had requests to make it possible to change separately different bits of file panels UI.
So, at that moment I decided to stick with flexibility, perhaps with some penalty in form of settings' clutter.
swoop wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:42 pm
(I reverted to 1.1.5 because some of the Preferences being far less self-explanatory. Some namings were improved, indeed, to be fair.)
I'd be grateful if you give some examples, and maybe suggestions?

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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by swoop » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:39 am

mike wrote: I'd be grateful if you give some examples, and maybe suggestions?
I'll get back to you! Excellent response time, btw. Thanks!
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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by swoop » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm

Mike, I gave "Themes" another go and I see the reasoning behind. It's actually well organised. Kudos to Import/Export functionality.
After 24 hours with NC 1.2. I must say I find it very solid and probably I can promote it to my main file manager.

However, nothing's perfect and I found a few bugs and deficiencies that I'd classify as bugs. Here we go.

Layout Full
- Date columns in smart format only. Missing classic Date and Time.
- Extension column completely missing (this will enable easy sort by extension just by clicking on it).

Status bar
- File name display is superfluous (not needed)
- Display count and size of all / selected files
- Display used / total space on volume (graphical rendering would be a nice extra)

Favourites
- Real Favourites (used defined list) is missing (Cmd-3 is just a generated list - I do not know how)

Network drives
- Not possible to select / connect from NC (I have to connect my Synology NAS from finder and only then I can access it)

Multi rename
- Highlight (in red) of to be changed filenames is shown/not shown randomly (noticed while using [N1-9])

The above mentioned issues are the most hurting. More to follow after you pass your judgment on these.
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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by mike » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:05 am

swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
Layout Full
- Date columns in smart format only. Missing classic Date and Time.
Yes, I think it'll be added later in some form of option in Preferences.
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- Extension column completely missing (this will enable easy sort by extension just by clicking on it).
But... Ctrl+Cmd+2? Why bother using a mouse..
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- File name display is superfluous (not needed)
It is not, there're at least these reasons to have it:
- Displayed filename and real one can be different. Status bar shows a real one.
- When symlink is focused, status bar shows it's target.
- When file panel shows the search results there might be identical filenames, and status bar shows full paths to these items so they can be distinguished.
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- Display count and size of all / selected files
- Display used / total space on volume (graphical rendering would be a nice extra)
Do you really need this information to be hanging down there all the time?
First one is done by Cmd+A, second one is done by Cmd+L.
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- Real Favourites (used defined list) is missing (Cmd-3 is just a generated list - I do not know how)
Yes, this is a well-known issue. Will be resolved.
http://magnumbytes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=213
http://magnumbytes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=138
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- Not possible to select / connect from NC (I have to connect my Synology NAS from finder and only then I can access it)
Same stuff, just needs to be written.
http://magnumbytes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=184
http://magnumbytes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=109
swoop wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:00 pm
- Highlight (in red) of to be changed filenames is shown/not shown randomly (noticed while using [N1-9])
Not sure if I got this one. Red highlight indicates a collision in resulting filenames.

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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by WeZzy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:10 pm

Nice work on this build!

I did notice an issue that makes it unusable for me at the moment. I use a MacBook pro 2016 (with Touchbar). When I click in the left pane, then quickly in the right pane or vice-versa, a lot of times NC picks this up as if I was dragging an item from left to right or it picks it up as rename on a file in the left pane. Really strange.

Not sure if this makes sense the way I explained :)

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Re: build 2076 - v1.2.0 RC

Post by mike » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:16 am

WeZzy wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:10 pm
I did notice an issue that makes it unusable for me at the moment. I use a MacBook pro 2016 (with Touchbar). When I click in the left pane, then quickly in the right pane or vice-versa, a lot of times NC picks this up as if I was dragging an item from left to right or it picks it up as rename on a file in the left pane. Really strange.
Hi, WeZzy, and welcome to the forum!
Thanks for writing about the issue.
I can reproduce the occasional in-place renaming, but not the dragging. I'm using an external trackpad though.
Does it happens in all layout modes or in some particular?

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